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Disables Sentient Disease - #18064

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@Burger1998 Burger1998 commented Feb 24, 2023

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Document the changes in your pull request

talked about this on the discord for the last few days and no one has the will to rework this to a fun to play state. sucks to let this one go but it really doesn't mesh well with how viruses work nowadays.

if anyone manages to fix this up your welcome to reenable just a simple number change.

this is an unmaintained piece of shit who should have been gone a long time ago it never adds anything to the round theres better things that threat could be spent on that would be significantly better use of the roll.

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note that sentient disease is disabled to reflect this.

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rscdel: Disabled sentient disease from naturally spawning midround
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rest in peace sweet prince
@Yogbot-13 Yogbot-13 added the Revert / Deletion Altoids is probably mad about this label Feb 24, 2023
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Just remove it

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talked about this on the discord for the last few days

ok post why

@patpol4 patpol4 changed the title Disabled Disables Sentient Disease Feb 24, 2023
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talked about this on the discord for the last few days

ok post why

its not good and has not been changed to reflect the fact that viro is balanced around thresholds and no one is willing to rework it. better to rip the bandaid off now rather than let it slowly falls into disrepair while everyone pretends it doesn't exist.

and well simply most of the time its just boring while ghosts wish that something more interesting spawned.

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Just remove it

oh you want to just abandon ship? should i close this and start another pr or?

@Hopekz

Hopekz commented Feb 24, 2023

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it really doesn't mesh well with how viruses work nowadays.

What do you mean no one has changed viruses here for years so it is still the same as it always was.

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Moja10 commented Feb 24, 2023

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it really doesn't mesh well with how viruses work nowadays.

What do you mean no one has changed viruses here for years so it is still the same as it always was.

This, the only thing that really changed was a buff to virus cures (making them harder to cure), and people getting better at curing viruses/making the chemical cures, AFAIK. Also, people realized that its more worth it to just cure all sentient viruses in case they start good but go bad, maybe if sentient viruses had stronger helping/healing abilities people wouldn't just cure them on sight.

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ive never heard anyone complan about this antag

@ynot01

ynot01 commented Feb 24, 2023

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biggest problem with senti disease is definitely how hard it is to get started, you really need the perfect storm in order to even get off your feet and start being even a mild detriment

@ThatLing ThatLing added the Missing/Inadequate Rationale This pr is missing a 'why is this good for the game' section or it is inadequate label Feb 24, 2023
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nobody complains because nobody ever notices it

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biggest problem with senti disease is definitely how hard it is to get started, you really need the perfect storm in order to even get off your feet and start being even a mild detriment

and then theres 800 0.1u vaccines on the station the second your visible on medhud

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ynot01 commented Feb 25, 2023

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and then theres 800 0.1u vaccines on the station the second your visible on medhud

#15251

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and then theres 800 0.1u vaccines on the station the second your visible on medhud

#15251

#18073

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Virology doesn't do anything with virus curing. That's chemistry. Which is the real issue.

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Virology doesn't do anything with virus curing. That's chemistry. Which is the real issue.

vaccines are where the 0.1u's come from chemistry just clicks a couple buttons to make pills

@JamieD1 JamieD1 added the Awaiting - Vote - Poll This PR is awaiting the completion of a server poll label Feb 26, 2023
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Virology doesn't do anything with virus curing. That's chemistry. Which is the real issue.

vaccines are where the 0.1u's come from chemistry just clicks a couple buttons to make pills

We will fix this.

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There's also a issue where you roll sentient disease late in the round with everyone having a high resistance viro disease - so you either manage to infect one random monkey man, or you insta die.

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well it seems the votes pretty one sided and the syringe pr got merged so i don't particularly care enough to fight for this anymore

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@Hopekz

Hopekz commented Feb 27, 2023

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well it seems the votes pretty one sided

no they're not

@Necrosium

Necrosium commented Mar 9, 2023

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I'm up for it being removed while a rework's being thought of, it's not easy to play it and it just takes some half-brained crew to notice you're coughing once to rush to medbay and get a vaccine from it. Plus there's a high chance a roundstart virus done by a bored viro will overtake your sentient disease.

My experience as a sentient disease are usually always bad, usually it will begin by infecting a patient zero who goes AFK, sprints to medbay as soon as you click the cough button once, or will get overtaken by an OP virus made the first 5 minutes roundstart. It's literally unplayable at this state, you either need to rely on the station being a chaos or medbay being nonexistent for you to actually have a chance to succeed (if someone who likes to ruin antag rounds doesn't come first by breaking into viro and spamming vaccines first).

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